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MICHAEL TUCKER

Director

Gunner Palace



1. What drew you towards this particular documentary?

I had been to Iraq twice to film a german armored car salesman. During those visits, in May-July 2003, we saw the rise of the insurgency and noticed that the media was treating the war like a done deal. Over. Finished. Most people knew it was just beginning.

The soldier's story wasn't really told, at least not in an unconventional way. We wanted to be able to humanize their experience. To show the day to day. Highs and lows. To saty true to their experience.


2. How difficult was it in portraying an unbiased view of the war while being positioned in both the United States and Iraq during the shoot?

It is very difficult to overcome the urge to politicize the war.

While shooting, I often had to stop myself from verbally speaking up or engaging who I was filming. That was primarily during raids when you have very upset Iraqis in homes and you somehow want to defuse situations etc.

As for bias, by the time we stopped editing, 8 people connected to the film were killed. If anything, we now have an emotional bias that is grounded in knowing those people.



3. How were you received by the military and by Iraqi pedestrians?

When I was with 2/3, my contact with Iraqis was limited to the interaction soldiers had with them. That was the idea: to stand in the soldiers shoes. On two previous trips to Iraq, I had very different relations and interaction with Iraqis.

As for the Army, they accepted me. No issues.



4. What measures were taken by the military or yourselves to ensure your safety? At any point did you feel that your lives were immediately compromised?

We were responsible for our own safety. The most dangerous thing then was getting to Baghdad. By my second trip to film 2/3 FA, we had to take very severe security precautions for the drive in. My life was in danger any number of times, but no more than the soldiers I was filming, which is what you fall back on to rationalize any danger.



5. Gunner Palace debuted at the Telluride and Toronto film festivals. What impact did this have on you as artists and how did it assist the film?

Telluride is a filmmaker's dream. At the festival, your film is one of a few dozen, versus say 300 at TIFF. Telluride is a great place to premiere an intimate work.

Toronto is a great festival and a great film town. We had great audiences there which is very helpful when you are trying to sell a film-which we did on the first day.



6. I believe Gunner Palace was originally slated for an "R" rating, but was later phased into a "PG-13". Why did this change? Did this cause dramatic alterations to the movie's final cut?

The PG-13 was granted through an appeal from an R--which was amazing to win. There was no cutting. It's the most profane PG-13 film ever. The R was for language and we argued that context was crucial to consider. In this case the war-time use of harsh language.,



7. Michael Tucker : "I realized, looking at how young the soldiers are, that these guys learned this stuff -- the aloha shirts and everything else -- from 'Platoon' and 'Full Metal Jacket.'" Would you say that Gunner Palace is a reflection of life imitating art, or perhaps this was more of a tool used by the soldiers to help cope with the dangers and surreal surroundings in which they were placed?

In the beginning it was life imitating art. war is learned behavior, what better place to learn than at the movies? However, over time, with 3 KIA soldiers and 60 wounded, these guys started writing their own script, their own movie. it's their experience. They own it.



8. Over all else, what do you hope Gunner Palace will teach its viewers?

GP won't change any minds. That's not the point. We hope that the film humanizes the experience of this soldiers. They are, after-all, only human. Imperfect. Some audiences in America have expected to see an unblemished portrait. Others have expected to see a political attack on the leaders of this war. All that GP offers is an intimate look at a chaotic time and place form the perspective of some of the young people fighting. Ten or twenty years from now, I hope it will be valuable. For now, I think it is useful for people to see just how chaotic Iraq is.



9. You shot Gunner Palace with digital equipment and edited the movie both on site in Iraq and at home using Final Cut pro? Given the choice between traditional film and digital technologies, which has the greatest advantages?

We couldn't have shot GP on film. It would have been cost intensive. On the hand, digital is very sensitive to conditions and wear and tear. Iraq kills equipment--especially the heat. On the editing side, you can't beat FCP. We were able to manage an intense amount of material and were able to devise a fairly efficient work-flow.

In the future, with the advances in cameras and resolution, I look forward to shoot on digital again.



10. What advice would you lend to up-and-coming film students/directors interested in taking on documentary feature films?


I think you have to have a passion for what you are shooting. Even if the film never sees the light of day, you have to be happy to have made it. It needs to be important today and tomorrow. If it does see the light of day, you have to be secure in you motivations.



11. You co-founded the "Nomados" production company, which focuses on humanitarian documentaries. What can you tell us about Nomados? What upcoming projects are in line?

We've shot all kinds of things. I started in Vietnam 13 years ago. We shot humanitarian things in Bosnia and elsewhere. Before the war, we were in Africa filming conservation projects for children. The war was something we fell into. Both of us look forward to returning to a softer subject. However, we will return to Iraq in May...one last time.



12. What was the last great book you have read?

The Conversations : Walter Murch and the Art of Editing Film